Comments on: “We’ll Find a Way to Make Money, We’re American”: Notes from the NATPE Exhibit Floor, Part 4 http://www.extratextual.tv/2008/02/%e2%80%9cwe%e2%80%99ll-find-a-way-to-make-money-we%e2%80%99re-american%e2%80%9d-notes-from-the-natpe-exhibit-floor-part-4/ Up The Content Stream Without A Paddle Sun, 25 Sep 2011 11:55:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Jonathan Gray http://www.extratextual.tv/2008/02/%e2%80%9cwe%e2%80%99ll-find-a-way-to-make-money-we%e2%80%99re-american%e2%80%9d-notes-from-the-natpe-exhibit-floor-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-402 Jonathan Gray Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:48:05 +0000 http://www.extratextual.tv/2008/02/%e2%80%9cwe%e2%80%99ll-find-a-way-to-make-money-we%e2%80%99re-american%e2%80%9d-notes-from-the-natpe-exhibit-floor-part-4/#comment-402 All great points, Elana: 1. Yes, I guess I shouldn't expect that they'd go all Hall-ish, but it's a nice dream ;-) 2. And I didn't mean to suggest it'd be a new concern per se, as much as further development. You've done neat work illuminating this, as have Derek Kompare, Miranda Banks, Vicki Mayer, Serra Tinic, and several others. I'm still hungry for more, though, I guess (so keep it coming). 3. As for author, that's a holdover from my training in Eng Lit, not the best choice of word by any means, though I struggle to think of great alternatives. It's that old thing of whether it's best to keep the term and try to expand who counts as within its territory, or whether we try to find a new one that might not be as intuitive, but that therefore might be more open to firmer definition. All great points, Elana:
1. Yes, I guess I shouldn’t expect that they’d go all Hall-ish, but it’s a nice dream ;-)
2. And I didn’t mean to suggest it’d be a new concern per se, as much as further development. You’ve done neat work illuminating this, as have Derek Kompare, Miranda Banks, Vicki Mayer, Serra Tinic, and several others. I’m still hungry for more, though, I guess (so keep it coming).
3. As for author, that’s a holdover from my training in Eng Lit, not the best choice of word by any means, though I struggle to think of great alternatives. It’s that old thing of whether it’s best to keep the term and try to expand who counts as within its territory, or whether we try to find a new one that might not be as intuitive, but that therefore might be more open to firmer definition.

]]> By: Elana Levine http://www.extratextual.tv/2008/02/%e2%80%9cwe%e2%80%99ll-find-a-way-to-make-money-we%e2%80%99re-american%e2%80%9d-notes-from-the-natpe-exhibit-floor-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-401 Elana Levine Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:06:35 +0000 http://www.extratextual.tv/2008/02/%e2%80%9cwe%e2%80%99ll-find-a-way-to-make-money-we%e2%80%99re-american%e2%80%9d-notes-from-the-natpe-exhibit-floor-part-4/#comment-401 Very interesting, as all these posts have been. But I wonder why we would expect these industry execs to even conceive of power in the same ways that academics in general and CS TV scholars in particular would. It doesn't surprise me at all that "they" may have moments of conceiving of the audience as powerful, but not in the ways "we" might. For their conception of power would understandably not be concerned with the questions of identity, ideology, etc. that a scholarly conception of power in terms of media production and reception would. Also, I'm completely with you on thinking about creators as a distinct category within "the industry." I'm not sure this is that new a question, however. See, for example, Julie D'Acci's Defining Women from nearly 15 years ago that looks specifically at negotiations between producers and networks. I'm also not sure that "authorship" is the best way of conceiving of this category, in that all those involved in production, even those we might not think of as authors (e.g. below the line workers) are in a category quite distinct from the net and other exec suits. Thanks so much for all of these "front line" insights- Very interesting, as all these posts have been. But I wonder why we would expect these industry execs to even conceive of power in the same ways that academics in general and CS TV scholars in particular would. It doesn’t surprise me at all that “they” may have moments of conceiving of the audience as powerful, but not in the ways “we” might. For their conception of power would understandably not be concerned with the questions of identity, ideology, etc. that a scholarly conception of power in terms of media production and reception would.

Also, I’m completely with you on thinking about creators as a distinct category within “the industry.” I’m not sure this is that new a question, however. See, for example, Julie D’Acci’s Defining Women from nearly 15 years ago that looks specifically at negotiations between producers and networks. I’m also not sure that “authorship” is the best way of conceiving of this category, in that all those involved in production, even those we might not think of as authors (e.g. below the line workers) are in a category quite distinct from the net and other exec suits.

Thanks so much for all of these “front line” insights-

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